[Fwd: Archive Removal (VTR/Stag Digest/Triumphs)]

[Glenn Merrell <gmerrel@domain.elided>]

Glenn Merrell wrote:
> 
> Hello Jeffery,
>         Thank you for the explanation posted to the list about the archives' removal,
> and the amount of other list search functions you perform for other automotive
> list owners.  The search utilities had been received very well.  If you do
> receive express permission from the list owners, please let us know which owners
> have given their permission, and what lists will again be ready for searching.
> It is mu wish and hope to see the search engine up again in the near future.
> 
> To All the List Subscribers:
> 
>         Since Core Networks was interested in performing this free service for our
> hobbyiest group, and knowing how busy the list owners can be, I took the liberty
> of requesting to see a test of the archives search ability.  After a long
> discussion with Jeffery and Angela, I alone determined that Core Networks had
> adequate safeguards to protect the information, and with Jeffery being a fellow
> Triumph enthusiast himself, felt confident this was a good step in the positive
> direction to further our information resource for Triumphs.  I then notified the
> list owners by e-mail (several times), letting them know all the details, what
> to expect, requesting that they contact Core Networks to give express permission
> once they tired the service, and finally, my promise that if there was the least
> bit of dissention or disagreement from any of the list owners, that the archive
> search would be "gone, history, kaput, nixed, out-a-here".
>         The dissention has been expressed, and it is a very valid concern from a list
> owner who must endure several hundred Triumph owners very pointed opinions in
> the e-mail about receiving unwanted e-mail spam and advertisements from various
> solicitors.  In keeping with my word to the list owners, all is restored with no
> real damage done except some ruffled feathers, but the fruit has been tasted.
> Like I told Jeffery, sometimes a Triumph (owner) needs several jump starts to
> get going!
> 
> Glenn's Commentary:
> 
>         I am not one to stand by and do nothing when something needs doing.  I'm a
> "identify the problem and fix it now" person.  As a long time Triumph
> enthusiast, mechanic, and hobbiest, I well understand the frustration trying to
> locate information about a particular problem or part location.  The internet is
> absolutely the prime resource for obtaining this information, as printed
> periodicals just can not supply the wealth of information on hard copy format,
> in the click of a button, or for free.  I would hope that the list owners would
> allow the fruit of their hobby labor to be shared as openly and freely as
> possible between all owners and enthusiasts.  That labor being the collection of
> great information in one public location for the public benefit of the
> subscribers.
>         The NET has been doing a rather nice job of policing itself with the regard to
> spammers and mass mailers.  Browsers have become more configurable to allow mail
> containing certain link, header, subject or body text to be immediately
> discarded.  My junk e-mail has depeated to only one or less on average a day,
> where before I was receiving literally hundreds (notwithstanding some of the
> stuff I read here, at hem!).  The real problems occur when a large piece of spam
> gets into the mailing list and everybody hits the "REPLY TO ALL RECIPIENTS" as
> opposed to deleting the crap.
> 
>         In closing, make your opinions known whether this is the type of service is
> what you like to see.  TEAM DOT NET is the largest database of Triumph
> information anywhere.  There are other ways of searching it, but it means that
> either the list owner must do the work and provide a search engine for us to
> use,  all in his spare time as a hobby effort, or, that each of us maintain
> copies of the archives and build our own search utilities.  A list owner can
> easily put 40 hours or more a week just maintaining the list.
> 
>         Core Networks provides a tool that appears to be professionally thought
> through, properly administrated by professionals, one of which is a fellow
> Triumph enthusiast.  In my assessment of Core Networks ability, we collectively
> have no worries about major outside interference from spammers and mass
> e-mailers.  I thank them in this public forum for the time, effort and resources
> to show us what can, and WILL be.
> 
> I hold no private or public interests in Core Networks (but maybe I should...)
> 
> Heralding all a Triumphant New Year!
> 
> Regards,
> Glenn  Merrell
> Triumph Stag Register USA VP
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