Scott, What do you mean "cheesy"? hasn't anyone told you about Amway??? In a message dated 98-10-27 17:54:06 EST, you write: << Date: 27 Oct 98 11:32:49 PDT From: [email protected] Subject: No Dinan Bashing Here! It was just that whole "Dinan Points" thing that got me going. It kind of sounded cheesy, something that I wouldn't expect from a high-end shop. Scott Miller GGC >> ------------------------------