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Steve Wrote:

>I need advice from the tire experts on the Digest.  I have a 1994  =
325is=20
>with the sport pkg.  This includes the alloy sport pkg wheels that use=20
>Michelin Pilot HX 225/55/15 tires.  These seem to be very good tires =
for=20
>this car, but my tire alternatives are extremely limited..  Almost =
nobody=20
>makes this size.
=20
You are right, your choices for 225/55/15 are limited and way too =
expensive for what you get.

>A tire shop has suggested that I can use 205/55/15 tires, but I am not=20
>sure that this would be an improvement over what I presently use.  I=20
>don't plan to replace the wheels and would like to keep the speedometer =

>fairly accurate and minimize tramlining.

I have a 94 325i without the sport package and the standard tire size is =
205/60/15.  A 205/50/15 would be too short, don't listen to them.  The =
sport rims are 15x7 just like my standard rim, it just looks a bit =
fancier so if you decide to open your options, that is the size to go =
too.  My feeling is that even though you lose some width, you can =
compensate with a better tire (stickier) and keep a bunch of money in =
your wallet especially if your suspension is stock or near stock.  I =
have H&R, Bilstein, RD swaybars and the car feels pretty good, of course =
not like a 17", but you get what you pay for.  I also put 132K on my car =
so comfort is also important to me since I spend a lot of time there.

>Would going with a 50 series tire make a significant difference in =
speedo=20
>reading?  There seem to be more brands with a 225/50/15 tire.  I am=20
>looking for improved dry performance with decent wet performance.  I =
live=20
>in southern Arizona and it doesn't rain very much  : )    and it  =20
>*RARELY* snows here : ))


The 205/60/15 is 24.7 inches tall, so the next size tire which is that =
tall (after the 225/55/15) is a 245/50/15.  This possibility fascinated =
me but, I received many mixed answers on whether or not they fit on the =
7" rim so I played it safe (BTW Dunlop SP 8000 has this size if they =
fit).  Calling all digesters again!!!  I looked at all the possibilites =
when searching for tires and decided to stay with 205/60/15.  The =
225/50/15 tire is only about 23.8" tall, this is approximately 1"  =
difference so it will probably make a little difference.  FYI,  BMW uses =
225/50 on 16" rims.  My concern when I bought tires is that the extra =
inch will not only throw my speedo off, but the tire will look lost in =
the wheel well even though my car is lowered a la H & R.

I ditched the all season tire and went to a performance tire because I =
use snows (NY winters).  I ended up with the Dunlop D40 M2 because it =
was a good tire for the money.  This tire is now discontinued (RIP) and =
just today, I ordered Yokohama AVS intermediates to replace them.
=20
Your best choices ($ vs. performance) for 205/60/15 if you decide to go =
this way are (IMHO of course) as follows:
=20
Bridgestone RE71: $80 ea @ tirerack.
Yoko AVS intermediate $99ea    ".
=20
The Yoko have a longer tread rating (140 vs. 160) and they are =
supposedly stickier, I will find out soon enough.  Keep in mind that all =
of the above tires suck in the snow (I got caught in the first snow of =
the last winter with the Dunlops and I literally drove home sideways), I =
did not have any problems driving in the rain with the Dunlops though.
=20
P.S. I wanted so badly to find a 225/55 but was heart broken at what I =
saw.
=20
Cheers for Now,
=20
Anthony [email protected] or [email protected]=20

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<DIV>Steve Wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;I need advice from the tire experts on the=20
Digest.&nbsp; I have a 1994&nbsp; 325is <BR>&gt;with the sport =
pkg.&nbsp; This=20
includes the alloy sport pkg wheels that use <BR>&gt;Michelin Pilot HX =
225/55/15=20
tires.&nbsp; These seem to be very good tires for <BR>&gt;this car, but =
my tire=20
alternatives are extremely limited..&nbsp; Almost nobody <BR>&gt;makes =
this=20
size.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>You are right, your =
choices for=20
225/55/15 are limited and way too expensive for what you =
get.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>&gt;A tire shop has suggested that I can use 205/55/15 tires, =
but I am=20
not <BR>&gt;sure that this would be an improvement over what I presently =

use.&nbsp; I <BR>&gt;don't plan to replace the wheels and would like to =
keep the=20
speedometer <BR>&gt;fairly accurate and minimize tramlining.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000>I have a 94 =
325i without=20
the sport package and the standard tire size is 205/60/15.&nbsp; A =
205/50/15=20
would be too short, don't listen to them.&nbsp; The sport rims are 15x7 =
just=20
like my standard rim, it just looks a bit fancier so if you decide to =
open your=20
options, that is the size to go too.&nbsp; My feeling is that even =
though you=20
lose some width, you can compensate with a better tire (stickier) and =
keep a=20
bunch of money in your wallet especially if your suspension is stock or =
near=20
stock.&nbsp; I have H&amp;R, Bilstein, RD swaybars and the car feels =
pretty=20
good, of course not like a 17&quot;, but you get what you pay for.&nbsp; =
I also=20
put 132K on my car so comfort is also important to me since I spend a =
lot of=20
time there.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D4><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>&gt;Would going with a 50 series =
tire make a=20
significant difference in speedo <BR>&gt;reading?&nbsp; There seem to be =
more=20
brands with a 225/50/15 tire.&nbsp; I am <BR>&gt;looking for improved =
dry=20
performance with decent wet performance.&nbsp; I live <BR>&gt;in =
southern=20
Arizona and it doesn't rain very much&nbsp; : )&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and=20
it&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;*RARELY* snows here : ))<BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>The 205/60/15 is 24.7 =
inches tall, so=20
the next size tire which is that tall (after the 225/55/15) is a=20
245/50/15.&nbsp; This possibility fascinated me but, I received many =
mixed=20
answers on whether or not they fit on the 7&quot; rim so I played it =
safe (BTW=20
Dunlop SP 8000 has this size if they fit).&nbsp; Calling all digesters=20
again!!!&nbsp; I looked at all the possibilites when searching for tires =
and=20
decided to stay with 205/60/15.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D4><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#000000>The 225/50/15 tire is only about 23.8&quot; tall, this =
is=20
approximately 1&quot;&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D4>difference so it will probably make a little difference.&nbsp; =
FYI,&nbsp;=20
BMW uses 225/50 on 16&quot; rims.&nbsp; My concern when I bought tires =
is that=20
the extra inch will not only throw my speedo off, but the tire will look =
lost in=20
the wheel well even though my car is lowered a la H &amp; =
R.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000>I ditched =
the all season=20
tire and went to a performance tire because I use snows (NY =
winters).&nbsp; I=20
ended up with the Dunlop D40 M2 because it was a good tire for the =
money.&nbsp;=20
This tire is now discontinued (RIP) and just today, I ordered Yokohama =
AVS=20
intermediates to replace them.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
color=3D#000000><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#000000></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D4></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>Your best choices ($ =
vs. performance)=20
for 205/60/15 if you decide to go this way are (IMHO of course) as=20
follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>Bridgestone RE71: $80 =
ea @=20
tirerack.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>Yoko AVS intermediate=20
$99ea&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>The Yoko have a longer =
tread rating=20
(140 vs. 160) and they are supposedly stickier, I will find out soon=20
enough.&nbsp; Keep in mind that all of the above tires suck in the snow =
(I got=20
caught in the first snow of the last winter with the Dunlops and I =
literally=20
drove home sideways), I did not have any problems driving in the rain =
with the=20
Dunlops though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>P.S. I wanted so badly to find a 225/55 but was =
heart broken=20
at what I saw.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>Cheers for =
Now,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D4>Anthony <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A> or <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A>=20
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