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Re: <E34> Bilstein vs Koni
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Subject: Re: <E34> Bilstein vs Koni
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From: Pete Read <[email protected]>
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:44:17 -0700
Dennis Ignacio (E34 535) with Dinan Stage I shocks and springs is
concerned about ride comfort and asks for advice on Bilstein vs Koni:
>I ended up taking the car back to Dinan...
>Guess who asks for the keys, Steve Dinan himself. After
>he gets back, he claims that they are riding as designed...
>My salesman offered to replace the fronts with Konis which are
>adjustable. They happen to cost more and I have to pay the for
>the installation...
>should I wait for the current (Bilstein) setup to break in,
>OR should I spend more to get the Konis put on the front?
Dennis,
First of all, if you are dealing directly with Dinan, I think you are
in good hands. Their salespeople I've spoken with (Jeff Hecox and
Michael Boyle) are quite knowledgeable. When I've had questions
they couldn't answer, they have always allowed me to speak with their
engineers instead of trying to BS me.
I don't think you can go wrong with Koni or Bilstein shocks. They
are both high quality products. However, I'd recommend you stick
with the Bilsteins. They are already installed on your car and cost
less. I also think the Bilstein design is technically better
(except for Koni rebound dampening adjustment).
Part of this is personal bias. I made several calls to both Koni
and Bilstein to figure out the advantages of each. The Bilstein tech
rep (Cleve Hardaker) was very helpful -- much more so than the
person at Koni (maybe it was just a bad day to call).
Technically the main difference is that Bilstein uses a monotube
(single tube) gas shock versus the Koni twin tube (inner and outer
tube) gas shock. In the monotube design, the nitrogen gas
and shock fluid are separated. The gas pressure is higher and the
shock piston is also larger diameter. These features make the shock
more sensitive, more cavitation resistant, and aid cooling.
Except for sensitivity, at street speeds, these differences probably
don't amount to much -- I'm probably not a sensitive enough driver to
tell the difference.
Koni's advantage is its adjustability. The front strut is
especially nice. Just pop the hood and twist the top of the
strut. The rear shocks are also adjustable, but it's way too hard.
The shock has to be removed from the car (remove spring, push shock
rod down all the way and turn to adjust).
Adjustability sounds great (and is, if you like to experiment),
but Koni street shocks only have adjustable rebound dampening
(wheel traveling back down after bump). The compression (wheel
traveling up) is not adjustable. Even though rebound can be
adjusted, compression dampening affects ride comfort quite a bit.
I doubt the Koni is any softer in compression than the Bilstein.
Tires also make a big difference in ride comfort. When I change
to my stiff BFG R1 track tires (same size as stock 225/50-16),
the ride is much harsher. An all season radial, the same size,
is usually much less stiff than a performance tire. If you still
have your original tires and wheels, you may want to reinstall
them until the shocks break-in.
My Bilstein sports felt much better in 300-400 miles and the
ride compliance continued to improve for about 2,000 miles.
Regards,
Pete Read
'88 M5