>I have a set of Pagids and agree - they are dirty as hell. They do >stop really well though. Stone cold. Metallic pads tend to take some >warming up.. the Pagids are 100% from the get go. >Most people metallic pads because they are cleaner. > > >chris pawlowicz >'89 325i > I have these as well and agree with chris. Are they in fact the OEM? Sean