[alfa] re: V6 engine swaps

[Joe Elliott <jee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The Stratos replica is always a fun idea.

I would try cramming it in a Lancia Montecarlo/Scorpion first, or a Lotus 
Europa if I wanted something crazy.  (The latter has actually been done, 
see http://www.banks-europa.co.uk or something like that.)  I've also seen 
pics of an Alfa V6 in an X1/9, but I have no idea how it got there.

The Japanese roadster idea seems ridiculous in a bad way, to me.  I feel 
like it's a waste of an Alfa engine, but also that the Japanese roadster is 
a fun car in its own right that would be ruined with a heavier engine. 
Hey, what about an Opel GT? (only sort of kidding...)  It's a fun little 
car that desperately needs more power, and its original engine isn't 
exactly light.

Joe Elliott
'82 GTV-6


> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 03:55:23 -0500
> From: Brad Porter <zarda124@domain.elided>
> Subject: [alfa] V6 Engine swaps
>
> Hello all,
>
> 	It's me again... the annoying wordy guy that drops by the list once
> every
> year or two in the wee hours of the morning to ask questions about
> projects/ideas I'll probably never finish, let alone start, using way
> too
> many commas, ellipsis and run-on sentences.  I'm currently trying to
> decided what to do with the 3.0 164 motor I have.  I've got a few
> questions
> to help get me dreaming in the right direction.  The motor I have is
> from a
> '94 164 and still has the 5-speed transaxle attached.
> 	My first idea was to shoehorn the whole thing (engine/trans) into the
> back
> of a second generation MR2 (since I have a '91 MR2 turbo, and love
> it...
> almost as much as I love the Alfa V6).  I have the rear half of an MR2
> body
> shell, which would make development of the bits and pieces needed for
> the
> swap easier, but initial rough measurements indicate that it would be
> a bit
> tight in the engine compartment.
> 	So now I'm thinking of using some other small rear-wheel-drive
> car.  Hmmm... the V6 Spider has already been done.  I wonder if there
> exists some other abundant, cheap and perhaps slightly more *cough*
> modern
> *cough* little RWD drop-top?
> 	I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about a transmission.
> In
> the V6 Spiders that have been done (particularly ones using LS or Q
> motors), what transmissions have been used?  I'm wondering if a
> 4-cylinder
> trans would be able to handle 300+ horses (hey, this is my dream, and
> in my
> dreams all cars are turbocharged).  If I could find... oh, I don't
> know...
> some small car with... just making things up here... a normally
> aspirated
> 1.8 liter and a six-speed transmission, could I expect the trans to
> survive
> behind an S motor, or a turbocharged S motor?  I've got friends in the
> machine shop biz, so fabrication of a custom adapter plate shouldn't
> be a
> problem, so long as there's nothing bizarre about this... er...
> hypothetical... six-speed.
> 	BTW, if you're wondering why I'm not putting this motor into a GTV6 or
> Milano, it's because my Milano is currently being fitted with the
> other 164
> motor I have.  I'm always open to fanciful ideas... what would you do
> with
> a 164 motor and trans if it were sitting on your garage floor?
>
> 	Sweet dreams,
> 	 -Brad Porter (new resident of Maitland, FL!)
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