I for one considered my first flame from Fred as my initiation into the Alfa fold. It gave me a warm fuzzy, got my head out my A** and got my car on the road. Curt Norheim 91 164 5spd 91 164 a/t 83 GTV6 81 Vespa P200E -- to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]