One last note on Optima batteries. Costco (Issaquah WA) has Red top, 34/78, CA 980, CCA 750 batteries for $ 100. Mike Nakamura [email protected] Fall City WA USA 91 Spider Veloce 94 164LS -- to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]