Re: Stebro is a crook shop

[Carscribe@domain.elided]

In a message dated 12/14/01 10:22:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
bshorey@domain.elided writes:


> In the fwiw dept..
> 
> Stebro advertises a system for the Bora.  As I was in need of such a system,
> I had discussion with some folks on the Maserati list.  I received plenty of
> input, good and bad.
> 
> Paul Glynn has had great results with Stebro, and as he was a business (and
> therefore Stebro presumably had more to lose by pi$$ing him off), he
> recommended we go ahead with it.
> 
> We ordered the Stebro Bora components, and they arrived in a timely manner,
> and although everything hasn't yet been reassembled (there's other work to
> be done before things go back together), they seem to match up pretty well
> with what's already there.  At any rate, even if the fit turns out to be off
> by a little bit (I've heard that even the factory exhaust components don't
> bolt up to the Bora first time around), Paul is a superb fabricator and will
> make everything right.
> 
> I was pretty surprised that they'd have Bora components in stock.  The cars
> are 25 - 30 years old, and they didn't make many of them.  I wonder if what
> I got was what Pauls friend has been waiting for for the last 3 years?
> 
> Ymmv,
> 
> bs
> 
> 

They are one and the same. The Bora system that is advertised by Stebro was 
created from the original factory Bora system supplied to Stebro by an 
acquaintance, Michael Zeleny. He supplied Stebro with his original system for 
use as an analog or pattern for the creation of their own product now being 
sold. In return he was to receive his old system back and a new SS Stebro 
system; after 3 years and many lies and broken promises, he has not received 
an anything approaching what was promised (or that fits), indeed incurring 
huge expense with his mechanic for the removal and shipping of the original 
and 3 years of storage of the exhaustless Bora. 

His sad bolide has been waylaid this entire time since alternate Bora 
systems, SS or mild steel, are not found easily. Three years is a long time 
to give someone to deliver the goods as promised, and at each turn Stebro has 
mislead him. They are now on their way to court, hopefully for a fair 
settlement for all. I hate to see this happen to any supplier who supports 
the Alfa market, but I hate even more to see honest and decent owners get 
taken advantage of for sheer greed (as Dan's continued lies surely indicate 
intentional fraud, as opposed to mere mismanagement).
Holiday Cheers All Around,
Paul Mitchell

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