Re:Re: Berlina vs Super Windshield

[Kevin Trent <trentkc@domain.elided>]

John's research below indicates that the same windshields will fit Supers 
and Belinas.  It also indicates that the Super used rubber gaskets, but not 
if the early'69 Berlina used a gasket.

I compared my 67 Super's windshield (with a gasket) to the windshield in my 
73 Berlina (glue in).   Visual examination showed them to be the "same" but 
the clincher was using the stainless metal surround from a 74 Berlina 
windshield to lay around the comparable aluminum surround that fits in the 
rubber gasket on the Super.  The fit was also identical.  The Berlina uses 
a 'U' shaped rubber windlace around the metal lip of the windshield 
opening, then the windshield is glued in, then the gap around the glass is 
filled with windshield urethane which is then covered by the 
stainless.   The effect is the same as the Super's rubber gasket.   My bet 
is the windshields interchange.

//KCT, Powell, TN


At 09:15 PM 8/26/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:30:41 -0400
>From: "John Hertzman" <johnhertzman@domain.elided>
>Subject: Re: Berlina Windshield
>
>In AD7-3078 Kevin Trent writes "I've heard that the Super windshield will fit
>Berlinas.  But I think that might apply only to "early" Berlinas with gasketed
>windshields.  All my '71  and later Berlinas have glue in windshields, and
>don't know if the '69s have gaskets.  Or maybe it is just that Super
>windshields will fit in a glue in Berlina?  Or will fit with a gasket?  Anyone
>know for sure?"
>
>  I thought the parts books would answer this beyond any possible doubt, but I
>was wrong. Close, but with some ambiguity. The T.I., T.I.Super and Super all
>use one windshield and gasket with a 105.14 prefix from the original (1962)
>105.14 Giulia T.I. The 1750 and 2000 parts books show eight different
>windshields (lhd, rhd, tempered, laminated, athermic, clear, etc) with
>105.71,(USA 1750) 105.49,(rhd 1750) 105.15,(rhd 2000) and 105.12 (2000)
>prefixes, none with the 105.14 prefix. Normally one would say that shows the
>1750/2000 cars did not use the same windshield as the Giulias. The problem is
>that the Nuova Giulias, which were 115 cars which used the old Giulia hull
>from 1974 through 1977, used three different 105.12, 105.41, and 105.49
>windshields which had been used on the 1750s and 2000s. Unless there was some
>slight modification in the late Giulia Berlina hulls it would seem they all
>would interchange. The sheetmetal parts in the windshield surrounds do have
>different part numbers, but they are not conclusive.
>
>  The gaskets strongly suggest they all fit the same opening, as the 1750,
>2000, and Nouva all use the same 105.08.53.115.00 gasket; the 105.08 prefix
>indicates a first use on the floor-shift Giulia T.I., although my T.I. books
>show a 105.14 (column-shift T.I.) prefix.
>
>  John H.
>
>------------------------------

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